i will say the cops program passed in 1994 under bill clinton for 100,000 police officers on community policing and it's an essential program that has been scaled back his tardive having designed the program, they have to also prove how they're going to keep the cop on the program. not a cd. >> to add to that, how do you keep a national dialogue going? how does it just not become a street fight in the house of representatives between the nra? >> i'm not sure you're going to avoid a fight. then they say this. you talk about where you grew up. there's a difference between the city of chicago, suburbs and the city chicago and what goes on in montana where you have a home. we have to respect the cultural difference. but there's a lot of people who understand why my view is respectful of cultural differences and geographic differences, keeping it focused on criminal accesses re-create the partisanship and break down the red and blue areas. the president plays a key role as everybody does in keeping this a focused debate and not losing once to get legislation done. i don't think that's going